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Episode 14: 7/24/2017

3 Hopeful Hearts

Brice shared this local resource that was such a great help to him and his family during this difficult time. The organization offers grief companion support for those impacted by the death of a baby or child. 3Hopeful Hearts provides bereaved parents and families opportunities to honor, find hope, and seek healing through grief companionship. Check out their website for more information and support group options and resources.

Postpartum Mental Health for Dads

Postpartum mental health is not just a woman's issue. One in ten dads gets postpartum depression, and up to 18% develop a clinically significant anxiety disorder such as generalized anxiety disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and post-traumatic stress disorder at some point during the pregnancy or the first year postpartum. Check out the link below for support groups and other resources

Postpartum Healthline

1-800-944-4773 (4PPD)

Loss and Grief in Pregnancy and Postpartum

Experiencing the loss of a pregnancy, infant, or child brings unimaginable pain and grief, and can make you feel alone and lost. We want you to know that there are good resources for your loss and grief that provide non-judgmental support, information, and connection with others. To find local support and resources visit the link below.

Episode 13: The Bottom Of The Lake


Edinburgh Postnatal Depression Scale - Postpartum depression is the most common complication of childbearing. This 10-question self-rating scale has been proven to be an efficient and effective way of identifying patients at risk for “perinatal” depression. While this test was specifically designed for women who are pregnant or have just had a baby, it has also been shown to be an effective measure for general depression in the larger population.

PPD Helpline

SAMHSA’s National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357) SAMHSA’s National Helpline is a free, confidential, 24/7, 365-day-a-year treatment referral and information service (in English and Spanish) for individuals and families facing mental and/or substance use disorders.

Prenatal Depression Information

Depression is a serious illness that can interfere with everyday life. When women experience depression during pregnancy, it is called prenatal depression. Most women go through emotional ups and downs throughout pregnancy, and this is completely normal. But when feeling blue or sad for a few days becomes a regular thing and the sadness, anxiety and other negative emotions get in the way of everyday life, it might be depression. Prenatal depression is common. About 13 percent (more than one in 10) of pregnant women and new mothers experience depression. There are some experts who believe the percentage may be quite a bit higher. Fortunately, prenatal depression can improve greatly with treatment - find out more at the link below!

Baby Blues Information

Approximately 70-80% of all new mothers experience some negative feelings or mood swings after the birth of their child. Often the symptoms of “baby blues” will hit forcefully within four to five days after the birth of the baby, although depending on how the birth of the baby went, they may be noticeable earlier. Symptoms of “baby blues” can be found at the link below!

Depression During and After Pregnancy

Recent CDC research shows that about 1 in 8 women experience symptoms of postpartum depression. Additionally, a recent analysis by CDC found the rate of depression diagnoses at delivery is increasing and it was seven times higher in 2015 than in 2000 - learn more at the link below.

Mom's Mental Health Matters

Pregnancy and a new baby can bring a range of emotions. In fact, many women feel overwhelmed, sad, or anxious at different times during their pregnancy and even after the baby is born. For many women, these feelings go away on their own. But for some women, these emotions are more serious and may stay for some time. Learn more about how to understand and treat your mental health as a new mom at the link below.

Postpartum Support International

Call the Postpartum Support International HelpLine: 1-800-944-4773 You are not alone. You are not to blame. With help, you will be well. Find local support, support groups and more at the link below.

Episode 12: Doesn't Everyone Panic In The Dark?

Book: The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.

Drawing on more than thirty years at the forefront of research and clinical practice, Bessel van der Kolk shows that the terror and isolation at the core of trauma literally reshape both brain and body. “Essential reading for anyone interested in understanding and treating traumatic stress and the scope of its impact on society.” —Alexander McFarlane, Director of the Centre for Traumatic Stress Studies

Help With Post Traumatic Stress Disorder


ABC Worksheet

View Bethany’s ABC worksheets that were part of her therapy for C-PTSD


Review the paperwork from Bethany’s cognitive processing therapy about grounding!

Episode 11: Peaks and Valleys, Man!

WebMD Bipolar Disorder

There are several types of bipolar disorder; all involve episodes of depression and mania to a degree. Bipolar disorder is a lifelong illness. Episodes of mania and depression eventually can occur again if you don't get treatment. Many people sometimes continue to have symptoms, even after getting treatment for their bipolar disorder. Review all the the different types of bipolar disorder on their site!

Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance

The Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance (DBSA) envisions wellness for people living with mood disorders (depression and bipolar disorder). DBSA provides hope, help, support, and education to improve the lives of people who have mood disorders. Their website offers support groups, education, information about advocacy and so much more.

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline - 800-273-8255

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline - 800-273-8255 We can all help prevent suicide. The Lifeline provides 24/7, free and confidential support for people in distress, prevention and crisis resources for you or your loved ones, and best practices for professionals.

The End of The Beginning

Shadow work Journal

Glasshatch - I designed this book to serve as a journal and a guide for self reflection. This book is meant to help start you off on your shadow work journey by giving you 100 questions/prompts to respond to over the course of 100 days. Do them in order or flip to any random page, but be completely honest and open with yourself in the responses.

Episode 10: It's The Step Before The Libido

Vagus Nerve Wikipedia

Check out Wikipedia for a better explanation than Lauren could give! The vagus nerve supplies motor parasympathetic fibers to all the organs (except the adrenal glands), from the neck down to the second segment of the transverse colon. This means that the vagus nerve is responsible for such varied tasks as heart rate, gastrointestinal peristalsis, sweating, and quite a few muscle movements in the mouth, including speech (via the recurrent laryngeal nerve).,referred%20to%20in%20the%20singular.

Dr. Mark Hyman - Broken Brain Series

Dr. Hyman has turned his passion for Functional Medicine, real food, nutrition, and wellness into activism, working to change our food system on a global scale. Check out the Broken Brain Series Ank shared with us and other his other projects!

The Body Keeps the Score

The Body Keeps the Score is the book mentioned by Lauren in this episode. Renowned trauma expert Bessel van der Kolk has spent over three decades working with survivors. In The Body Keeps the Score, he transforms our understanding of traumatic stress, revealing how it literally rearranges the brain’s wiring—specifically areas dedicated to pleasure, engagement, control, and trust. He shows how these areas can be reactivated through innovative treatments including neurofeedback, mindfulness techniques, play, yoga, and other therapies. Based on Dr. van der Kolk’s own research and that of other leading specialists, The Body Keeps the Score offers proven alternatives to drugs and talk therapy—and a way to reclaim lives.

Food: What the Heck Should I Cook?

Dr. Mark Hyman's Food: What the Heck Should I Eat? revolutionized the way we view food, busting long-held nutritional myths that have sabotaged our health and kept us away from delicious foods that are actually good for us. Now, in this companion cookbook, Dr. Hyman shares more than 100 delicious recipes to help you create a balanced diet for weight loss, longevity, and optimum health. Food is medicine, and medicine never tasted or felt so good. The recipes in Food: What the Heck Should I Cook? highlight the benefits of good fats, fresh veggies, nuts, legumes, and responsibly harvested ingredients of all kinds. Whether you follow a vegan, Paleo, Pegan, grain-free, or dairy-free diet, you'll find dozens of mouthwatering dishes!

You Can’t Only Be The Victim

Fault Lines by Karl Pillemer

Estrangement from a family member is one of the most painful life experiences. It is devastating not only to the individuals directly involved--collateral damage can extend upward, downward, and across generations, More than 65 million Americans suffer such rifts, yet little guidance exists on how to cope with and overcome them. In this book, Karl Pillemer combines the advice of people who have successfully reconciled with powerful insights from social science research. The result is a unique guide to mending fractured families.

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents: How to Heal from Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents

In this breakthrough book, clinical psychologist Lindsay Gibson exposes the destructive nature of parents who are emotionally immature or unavailable. You will see how these parents create a sense of neglect and discover ways to heal from the pain and confusion caused by your childhood. By freeing yourself from your parents' emotional immaturity, you can recover your true nature, control how you react to them, and avoid disappointment. Finally, you'll learn how to create positive new relationships so you can build a better life.

You're Not Crazy - It's Your Mother: Understanding and Healing for Daughters of Narcissistic Mothers, Book

If you have a difficult relationship with your mother, this audiobook might well hold the key as to why. If you feel torn, upset, or confused after contact with your mother, then you deserve to have the answers. And maybe that answer is that your mother has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Find out if she does or not, and what it means for you in the rest of your life.

Shadow work journal

Glasshatch - I designed this book to serve as a journal and a guide for self reflection. This book is meant to help start you off on your shadow work journey by giving you 100 questions/prompts to respond to over the course of 100 days. Do them in order or flip to any random page, but be completely honest and open with yourself in the responses.

Episode 9: Honda Pilots Everywhere

Jen's Instagram

To follow alone with Jen and Stella's journey check out her instagram @jenkeeton

Stella's Story

William's Syndrome Association

Williams syndrome is a rare genetic condition affecting 1 in 10,000 people. For more information about William's Syndrome and how you can help, please check out the William's Syndrome Association Website! We have a donation option to their site linked on our Merch page!

Jen's Instagram

To follow alone with Jen and Stella's journey check out her instagram @jenkeeton

Stella's Store with Outshine Labels

Outshine Labels is a marketplace for advocates and supports families by shopping designs inspired by them! Jen and Stella created a collection "Never The Less" of merch with Outshine Labels where 60% of profits are donated to Best Buddies International!

Episode 8: A Hard Pill To Swallow


More information on Genomind genetic guidance for mental health prescriptions

Drug Interaction Checker

Always make sure you are checking any current medication you are on with any you plan to take to avoid interactions!

I Was a Baby Therapist

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents

This book has changed is my ability to understand my parents and their limitations better. HIGHLY recommend!

Episode 7: At Your Darkest Moments, People Leave

Kati Morton - How to Overcome Childhood Emotional Neglect

An easy way to determine if you struggle with abandonment and a to-do list for facing those struggles.

Episode 6: Pea-uh-jey Theory

Your extreme independence is a trauma response

"I used to pride myself on my independence. Why would I want to rely on anybody else? People always end up hurting you, abandoning you or betraying you. That’s just how life works — or so I thought. Now, I can see things more clearly. This way of thinking is not only untrue, it’s actually quite sad. And it’s always, always rooted in some deep-seated trauma that we haven’t addressed."

Codependency vs. Interdependency

Learn more about codependency and interdependency: "Society is highly specialized and interdependent, so that few of us would know how to survive without running water, electricity, and a supermarket. We’re also dependent upon our personal relationships. Human brains aren’t fully developed for 18 years, and psychological and financial independence from our parents takes even longer. Moreover, as adults we depend upon others to fill sexual, social, and emotional needs, such as friendship, communication, nurturing, appreciation, learning, love, and touch. The closer a relationship, the more we’re interconnected."

Jean Piaget

More information on Jean Piaget and his work!

Piaget Tiktok

Check out our TikTok we made about Jean Piaget

Episode 5: This Could Get Gross

Post Intensive Care Syndrome - Pics

The Cleveland Clinic provides further information on PICS for anyone who survives a critical illness that warranted admission to an intensive care unit (ICU) and their families.

Society of Critical Care Medicine

If you are an ICU patient or family member, this guide helps you understand the health problems known as post-intensive care syndrome, or PICS, so you know what to look for when you return home. It also includes tips on how to minimize PICS. Many people develop PICS, and help is available. You will have the best chance of recovery if you explain your health problems to your primary care doctor, who can refer you to the specialists you need.

Episode 4: I Have A Toxic Relationship With My Ghost

Sylvia Browne

Ghost Towns

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Episode 3: 2020 Is It's Own Word

Marco Polo



Yale Health Managing Stress

An Introduction to Shadow Work and Genogram

Key Words!

Stuck points - Stuck points are thoughts that keep us from recovering. Stuck points are concise statements that reflect a thought – not a feeling, behavior, or event.

Episode 2: My Childhood S***

'The Shadow Effect' by Deepak Chopra, Marianna Williamson, Debbe Ford

'The Power is Within' You by Louise L. Hay

Episode 1: Come Be Alone With Our Thoughts

'Shit I had to learn the hard way' Ebook

'Brainspotting Biolateral Sound Healing' by David Grand, PhD

Available on Spotify, Apple Music, Youtube